NC State guard DJ Horne recently said Bobby Hurley was a stepping stone to help get him to where he’s at right now. Horne has been a key player during the Wolfpack’s run through the NCAA Tournament. Is Arizona State a stepping-stone program for players across college sports? What’d Horne and Dan Hurley have to say about ASU’s coach? Plus, what has Kenny Dillingham done to change the stepping stone mentality for the football program? Join Anthony Totri, Shane Dieffenbach, and Erik Ruby as they discuss it all on the PHNX Sun Devils show!

0:00 Intro 

2:10 The Final 4 and DJ Horne

12:06 Is ASU Basketball a Stepping Stone? 

18:45 The ASU Fanbase 

28:56 Stepping Stone Football Program? 

42:18 Hot or Not

55:22 ALLCITY Transfer Portal 

56:12 Bronny in the NBA