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Coyotes in advanced discussions with ASU to use new multi-purpose venue as interim arena solution

Craig Morgan
Craig Morgan
January 27, 2022
Coyotes in advanced discussions with ASU to use new multi-purpose venue as interim arena solution

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Robert

Robert

January 27, 2022

Excellent news. It would be a tragedy to lose this team.
I don’t know if I’ll ever go to any more games but for 7 of the 9 or 10 years that I’ve been a STH, I liked it so much that I was first in line every home game.
I arrived at every home game by 1:30 or 2pm.
It was great running in to 2 or 3 others every game that felt the same way.
I just couldn’t wait to get there. I couldn’t believe everyone in this city didn’t feel the same.
I dedicated my life to another sport but as far as spectating goes in sports, nothing compares with the excitement I witnessed in first Jobing.com then GRA ( except maybe sectional championship high school basketball in Indiana)
I sure hope it works out this time and that the hockey fans in the valley won’t blow it ever again.
Lets go YOTES! Thanks Craig.

Robert Replying to Robert

January 27, 2022

It would be a welcome change not to have to chronicle the arena aspect of this franchise.

Canis Latrans

Canis Latrans

January 27, 2022

By team areas, I assume you mean locker rooms. So presumably they’ll need to upgrade another portion of the arena or get an extension added as they cannot share with ASU. Any thought on how steadfast that rule is with the NCAA?

Additionally, looks like ASU’s own site indicates it is set to be completed by December which obviously doesn’t align. Is the main playing/spectating part going to be completed on time with perhaps the community ice portion to be finished by the later time? I know you did a tour not too long ago, so perhaps you have some insight on which stages will be ready to go.

Canis Latrans Replying to Canis Latrans

January 28, 2022

That NCAA rule is set in stone.

My understanding is that the main arena will be ready by October. It should be noted that ASU scheduled it season to begin on the road in case there were delays. The NHL/Coyotes could always do the same, like the Islanders did this season.

JimA

JimA

January 27, 2022

This is the biggest embarrassment to date for the Coyotes. No one will take them on while they find their new home because they know they either won’t get paid or have to wait until another article by Katie Strang comes out. Assuming Glendale truly shut the door, never thought they would want to leave Glendale since they could have put a Sportsbook in arena or at Westgate right?

JimA Replying to JimA
TheLegend

TheLegend

January 28, 2022

Apparently ASU doesn’t seem to mind.

https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1486855070322884609?s=20

Glendale does not want another arena to compete with. They wanted the Coyotes to sign up for 12-15 more years or not at all.

The problem with GRA is simply there’s not enough revenue sources outside of ticket sales and concessions to make it. That’s true for EVERY pro sports franchise out there. The day Steve Ellman split with Jerry Moyes and separated the Coyotes from Westgate this was going to be the end result.

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AZ_2_CO

AZ_2_CO

January 28, 2022

Of course they want to leave Glendale. The location of the arena has been a problem since the day Scottsdale said no to the redevelopment of Los Arcos Mall and Steve Allman convinced a sleepy suburb to give him a sweetheart deal so he could benefit his true passion (hint hint it wasn’t the Coyotes). Glendale was banking on the West Valley continuing it’s unmitigated growth and hoping for an influx of corporate headquarters, neither of which happened. The housing market crashed, Glendale remained a bedroom community, and the majority (I believe CM stated it was in the 75% range) of their premium ticket and suite holders were located in the East Valley. Those premium sales and attendance are what make the team money. Little old me eating before or after them game, purchasing only a drink during the game, and sitting in the last row of the upper deck does nothing for their bottom line. They need deep pockets dropping copious amounts of coin every night. And therein lies the problem. Most people in the East Valley are not going to sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours to see the Yotes play the Blue Jackets on a weeknight. Even if the tickets are free it still isn’t worth it to get off of work at 5 (or leave work early), drive home, pick up the family, drive to the arena (missing most if not all of the first period), and stay for 1.5 period before you have to leave to get the kids home and in bed because they have school in the morning and if you leave at the end of the game, which is usually around 10pm, you’re not getting home until 11pm at the earliest if not closer to midnight depending on the efficiency of the parking lot attendants.

Being downtown or in the East Valley is the Coyotes only chance of staying in AZ. When they were downtown they always drew a good crowd regardless of the day of the week or opponent and despite the physical constraints of the arena.

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AZ_2_CO

AZ_2_CO

January 28, 2022

*Ellman

AZ_2_CO Replying to AZ_2_CO

January 28, 2022

Well said.

JimA Replying to JimA

January 28, 2022

They always wanted to leave Glendale. The economics of that market simply don’t work. That economic reality has been vetted over and over again. The same issues exist in Florida and Ottawa.

As for your assertion that no one will take them on, they are only one vote short of getting approval from the Tempe City Council. With ASU and president Michael Crow now backing them, that could easily change.

bartoegema

bartoegema

January 28, 2022

While an arena that small isn’t ideal, I see a lot of benefits to this approach. In addition to some you listed, Craig, I really like the idea of building a fun, energetic (crazy?) atmosphere. Almost a reboot based on a promising future (assuming Tempe arena/development plans move forward) and exciting new ideas. Better than languishing in a half empty barn – it’s hard to escape some of the pessimism.

bartoegema Replying to bartoegema

January 28, 2022

I agree. If you can get past the considerable issues with playing in such a small venue and just focus on the atmosphere, it will be really cool.

Have I mentioned that it’s a 25-minute commute from my hour; not 55?

davidcosand

davidcosand

January 28, 2022

This is exciting. All the jokes about the 5,000 seats and attendance are to be expected, but who cares. They will finally be playing in Tempe closer to fans (myself included) and it will be a lot of fun to watch them. Hopefully this also sends a strong message to the City of Tempe that they are committed to making things work at Rio Salado and Priest.

just a minor typo – Bill Daly is not the NHL commissioner

davidcosand Replying to davidcosand

January 28, 2022

Ha! I elevated him before his time. Apologies to Gary. Fixed. Thanks.

Soltero52

Soltero52

January 28, 2022

Craig, you made my day. I don’t believe anything until you say it. I agree with your reasons for this being a good idea. I live in Chandler but am a STH to the Roadrunners because travel time is less than going to Glendale most nights. However, the best part is the proximity to the game and the camaraderie that develops between the spectators. The intimacy of that venue will carry over to the new arena. I suspect week day games will result in resale of STM tickets that will allow the rest of us to get an opportunity to experience this atmosphere with some crossover to some ASU games with Josh Doan. On a selfish note, I love weekday games that don’t conflict with Roadrunner games so I can support my boys as they progress from AHL to NHL players. Reworking my entertainment budget as you read.

Soltero52 Replying to Soltero52

January 28, 2022

Well then, this is a win-win for you!

Soltero52 Replying to Soltero52
JimA

JimA

January 30, 2022

I meant as a temporary home. No one wants the headaches and hassle of a bad tenant.

They will own their building so they are essentially answering to themselves.

As you said on Marek’s show they didn’t see that Glendale was serious until it was too late. Coliseum would have made more sense but with 3-5k in attendance each night how much will tickets be to make up revenue? Average ticket price will need to be much higher and will people pay that to see a tanking team??

Curious if there will be any issues with sponsors at a college campus (gambling, etc?)

We can still support the team but at least agree it’s a sh*t show of an ownership group which is something for what came before.

As for travel and traffic. Phoenix metro lack of wide ranging public transit is a issue. Going to games back East and traveling 45-50 miles was more doable via bus or train. Not as bad when you can nap on the way home.

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