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Morgan: On the inevitable internal friction that tanking creates for the Coyotes

Craig Morgan
Craig Morgan
February 19, 2023
Morgan: On the inevitable internal friction that tanking creates for the Coyotes

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davidcosand

davidcosand

February 19, 2023

This is the way.

DesertCanuck

DesertCanuck

February 19, 2023

As I posted in a previous article, Armstrong will make multiple trades at the deadline to ensure the tank. As a fan, I understand but I am tired of it all. If they finally catch a lottery break and get Beard or Fantilli, I expect a better roster and an honest effort to compete starting next season.

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DesertCanuck

DesertCanuck

February 19, 2023

Bedard. I don’t want Beard, whoever he may be.

DesertCanuck Replying to DesertCanuck

February 19, 2023

lol

DesertCanuck Replying to DesertCanuck

February 19, 2023

🙂

DesertCanuck Replying to DesertCanuck

February 19, 2023

We’ll see. Trades aren’t as easy this year. A lot of teams are cap-strapped.

lukea

lukea

February 19, 2023

A good reminder. 13 out of 14 of the last teams to win the Cup had a player they drafted first or second overall. The only outlier are the Blues that had the fourth overall pick as the highest selection. I’m very skeptical the Coyotes can become an outlier. They will need some lottery luck in at least one of these next couple drafts. I just really hope the bad luck lottery curse is finally broken.

RobB

RobB

February 19, 2023

We won’t get any lottery luck. That will go to Chicago, because “it’s Chicago”. We will probably end up with a 4th or 5th pick. My question is what then? Another year of a purposely bad roster I believe will start losing the players and coaches, it’s already grating the fans. And what’s to guarantee next year will end up any differently. At some point you have to say, ok will start with what we have. We’ve had 2 years of this, and even if a miracle happens and we get Bedard, we won’t be a playoff team next year either. But have to start looking up.

RobB Replying to RobB

February 19, 2023

Bill has been ultra transparent about wanting to stack about four drafts together before they begin to emerge. That length of time allows them to genuinely restock the prospect pool. 2023 will be his third draft with adequate picks.

I expect more of the same next season, but with a possible infusion of part of the future, including Cooley & Guenther. After 2023-24, we may see signs of progress, although the team may not be ready to compete for a playoff spot just yet.

If they get lucky in this lottery, the timeline could change. All of the multi-Cup winners that I mentioned in this story had lottery luck. Forget what you have heard about what great organizations they were. They had luck in the lottery. Without it, we’re not talking about them. Period.

You can’t count on luck, but you have to stock your cupboards with high picks. History keeps proving that. This is the way.

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TheLegend

TheLegend

February 20, 2023

Okay Craig…..so you need a lot of lottery luck…. what’s Edmonton’s excuse then?? 🙂

Robert

Robert

February 20, 2023

I don’t even see the connection between high draft picks and winning.
I guess it’s good to draft High but I’m going through where everyone on Tampa Bay and Vegas were drafted and besides Stamkos , most were drafted on down the line like maybe where we are headed.
Isn’t it more important to find the great players nobody else knows about?
It’s hard to believe anyone would get upset about winning.
The obsession with the draft is a mania of some kind.
There is no correlation between winning and top 5 or 6 draft picks.
I would prefer to obsess about getting the top scouts who can see what other teams can’t.

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lukea

lukea

February 20, 2023

There is a very clear correlation.13 of the 14 last Cup champions all had at least one player picked first or second overall. All 14 had a player drafted top 5. It’s been more than 14 years since a team without a top 5 pick won the Cup. Of course the Coyotes need to find players elsewhere too, but it’s obvious when actually looking at the Cup winners that drafting high is important.

azbhodge

azbhodge

February 20, 2023

As a fan, I am tired of the endless rebuilds over the last 6-whatever years. Recently, we were given the clueless Chayka’s idea of a rebuild (small, fast and non physical) , now Armstrong’s rebuild ( i agree with his idea of a player, btw) which is being sabotaged by the mid and low level players he brought in to lose, who are surprisingly winning more than they should. I get why Armstrong is pushing the # of years he is for it to succeed, it gives him time to make mistakes and hopefully correct them, but when is enough enough for the fan base? Shrugs, I’m just glad I made the life decision to move away from Phoenix and give up my season tickets. It would be tough paying for season or package tickets knowing the team is designed to lose.
I suppose I am saying hinging it on multi year draft picks is an exercise in possible failure due to the draft rules themselves, players sabotaguing the plan, etc. I would have liked to see a shorter plan with a combination of existing players that have been traded, trade and new contract pickups of mid level quality players and draft picks. The team could have been more competitive sooner and probably still be just as good if the right player choices were made.

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BABA 44

BABA 44

February 20, 2023

Love to have some elite players, but I’d rather have a team with guts and energy and a few good players.

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azbhodge

azbhodge

February 21, 2023

Yeah, I believe that a plan which mixed mid level players which would have kept a few of those younger guys traded, hoping for success in the draft and strategic signings and trades has a better chance of success than hinging success on a super star in the draft. The draft is a crap shoot as far as finding player success and even if the players would have went along with the tank plan, there was no guarantee that the Coyotes would have ended up with picks 1-3 this coming draft.
I like Armstrong’s idea of player skill, size and grit, but slowly starting to believe his 3-5 plan is gonna give the Coyotes another mid level skill team. Hope I’m wrong, but we will see.

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