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Neutral Zone: On the Coyotes’ Dylan Guenther plan, too many men and this insane schedule

Craig Morgan
Craig Morgan
January 9, 2023
Neutral Zone: On the Coyotes’ Dylan Guenther plan, too many men and this insane schedule

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Robert

Robert

January 9, 2023

Hated to see Carcone go back down. He is a real hustler.
I would like to see the start of this rebuild to happen.
You mentioned on the podcast last night that these new guys, Cooley, Guenther etc need even another year, next year to play down someplace else together but I’m not sure a fan base can take that.
I read Browns article on what goes on in the arena each night and as well written as it is, it is inaccurate.
When I showed up yesterday in the plaza at 3:15 pm, 15 minutes before they opened the doors, there were probably 50-100 Pens fans there and I was the only YOTES fan.
Immediately this guy started giving me a hard time with everyone else joining in.
I stood up the best I could and told them “ If you live in Arizona you suck”
“ Maybe someday you can be a hockey town” another said.
“ We already are, everyone roots for the other team”‘I yelled back and it got even more tense.
If there is no sign, something to change this situation on the ice, I think we will be at that point of no return.
The ham n eggers who know all about “ Corsi” and have an opinion about “ 7/11” but don’t or rarely ever go to games or live in southwest Northern Buckovina someplace and don’t experience this… don’t know.
The YOTES fans who do go and do
know and don’t care or want to “ embrace” this sort of absurdity are in a situation where they accept their abuse.

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Sheryl

Sheryl

January 9, 2023

You are 100% entitled to your opinion, but I have to tell you…when I went to my first few Coyotes game as a neutral fan or a fan of the other team (coincidentally, the Penguins), if I had been met with that, I never would have added the Coyotes to my sports fandom. I wouldn’t have spent thousands of dollars on season tickets, hundreds on merchandise, or donated hundreds to their charitable efforts. I wouldn’t have convinced other people to give hockey a chance because the Coyotes are such a fun and likable team, and their fan base is (mostly) equally fun and welcoming.

I recently moved back to Pittsburgh because my job preferred that I be somewhere in the Eastern time zone. And you know what I find myself doing a lot of? Defending the Coyotes and correcting misconceptions. I’m not intending to toot my own horn, but they need voices like that outside of their core, local fandom because most hockey fans outside of AZ know nothing about them and believe narratives pushed by some media members, bloggers, and podcasters that are biased at best and flat-wrong at worst.

Phoenix is a city made up of transplants. When you have grown up in a different city, have supported their teams your entire life, you aren’t just going to drop that loyalty. Human beings don’t work like that. Instead, encourage them to add another team to the ones they support. I promise it can be done, and the way you do that is to treat them with respect at a bare minimum, kindness preferably.

There is too much gate-keeping in sports fandom. Sports are supposed to be fun, not something where you toe some imaginary line that someone made up to show that you are a “real” fan.

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Robert

Robert

January 9, 2023

If your suggesting that when some arrogant fat ass fan of another team comes up to you while your minding your own business looking at your iPhone and starts in on you about being a “ coyotes fan” that you not defend yourself… well, I guess that is YOUR opinion that you 100% deserve.
You had your cup of coffee here. All one needed to do is read what you had to say to predict you’d be high tailing back to Pittsburgh.
I’m embarrassed for the team. It’s humiliating to watch what they go through.
More fans are finally speaking out.
It’s taken years, but it’s finally happening.

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Sheryl

Sheryl

January 9, 2023

If that happened, I’m sorry. You 100% have the right to defend yourself. That’s not how I read your original comment, and now I see I may have misread.

My point stands, however, based on other things you’ve said over the years. We don’t agree on this, but I appreciate you as a fellow fan, and a fan or longer than I have been.

And I will say that the Penguins had one of the worst visiting fandoms in terms of that stuff. I was genuinely surprised by that. Not as bad as Anaheim, but way worse than Philadelphia, something I would not have guessed.

Personally, I would have just walked away. Drunk idiots are drunk idiots and there is no sense arguing with them.

Brandon Sparks

Brandon Sparks

January 9, 2023

That’s an insane stat about Guentzel. Also, two upcoming games against the Ducks: as much as I want us to win games (we can beat St. Louis just for Bill), if we could lose those two it would be great for the tank.

John18

John18

January 9, 2023

IMO Tourigny is being exceedingly stubborn about the 11/7 issue.

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Brandon Sparks

Brandon Sparks

January 9, 2023

I mean, he does know more than us. Which is more than I can say about our previous coach.

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