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Yes, Arizona is a hockey market

Craig Morgan
Craig Morgan
January 20, 2022
Yes, Arizona is a hockey market

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Mark Teifert

Mark Teifert

January 20, 2022

Absolutely Craig, this market has hockey roots now. I am part of those roots from being a STH back in the Purple Palace days (even a couple years in Glendale before the drive wore me out). I was there through all of the lean years and was there in 2012 when the building was packed again. My son plays both in house and travel hockey leagues here in the valley. We have supported so many of the great hockey programs throughout the valley, ASU, GCU, Roadrunners, even the short lived Mustangs. There are thousands like me here in the valley and we will continue to support our team.

Mark Teifert

Mark Teifert

January 20, 2022

Can you add any of the links you have collected to the grass roots community support for the new arena? You have a big voice and could help get the word out. Might be a good opportunity to add info and move this article in front of the paywall.

Mark Teifert Replying to Mark Teifert

January 20, 2022

The links are included in the story.
Staying behind a paywall. Otherwise, you’ll be responding to more trolls.

Robert

Robert

January 20, 2022

Your enthusiasm and confidence are fantastic Craig.
I hope you are right.
I am a premium seat STH and have been for 9 or 10 years.
I remember the tailgate when there was a great band playing for all the fans. This black guy playing guitar, played Hendrix’s “ Easy Rider” on his guitar note for note!!!
When he was done, I gave him a sincere standing “ O”.
He looked out upon the expanse of Coyote fans ( me and this lady leaning against a lamp post in Lot G) and just gave a disgusted snort.
And that’s about how it went in my memory about this hockey markets support for that team.
Well, that and “ Howl-O-ween” 2014, when Nashville came to town with a crowd of 7114 in attendance.
I never understood why the community didn’t support the team and said so on many venues and got in trouble for it.
As a casual fan, I am only interested in the Coyotes. I don’t care about ASU, AHL, ECHL or any lower leagues.
Compared to the NHL in terms of excitement those contests would be like a contest between two teams to see who could whisper the loudest.
I will never attend those games.
I’ll take your word for it because of your passion and great writing for your sport ( which is fantastic)
I hope you are right.

Robert Replying to Robert

January 20, 2022

I have covered this hockey community for a long time. It’s real.

NicholasB40

NicholasB40

January 20, 2022

Thank you, Craig. This was cathartic to read. It gets extremely frustrating reading national reports that push a narrative out there that is so far from what is actually happening here. It shouldn’t, we should be used to that by now, but for me it still does because we know the truth of this community and we know what really happens. I wouldn’t trade this hockey family for anything. We have been so lucky and blessed to have people like yourself, Doaner, Shotty, Lyndsey, and so on that really makes this special and that’s worth fighting for and holding on to.

NicholasB40 Replying to NicholasB40

January 20, 2022

Thank you.

gfinney

gfinney

January 20, 2022

Well said!

Jrader17

Jrader17

January 20, 2022

Craig is there a way we can get this article published as a guest article on TSN.com? Just to educate some rubes.

All the points here are correct, and just to add (despite that fact that I hate it in my bones).. AZ is also a massive transplant market where fans of the Blackhawks, Redwings, Wild, Penguins, Canucks, and Oilers all have lots of fans that have relocated to live in a place that doesn’t suck. And while I would love to turn all of those fans into Yotes fans (only winning will do that) but it’s why AZ consistently posts strong TV ratings for nationally televised hockey games and the playoffs there’s just a lot of hockey fans that live in the valley, even if they aren’t Coyotes fans.

Would also like to add that the Tempe location would also be available by public transport, can’t stress how huge that is. Lightrail wasn’t around when the team was downtown and obviously not in Glendale. Just not having to drive and then pay for parking would bring more people to games.

Jrader17 Replying to Jrader17

January 20, 2022

I wish the light rail came out to Gilbert. I agree that it helps.

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KarenMac3

KarenMac3

January 20, 2022

We routinely get on at Gilbert and Main to go downtown to Dbacks games! Sooooo much simpler!

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Jrader17

Jrader17

January 20, 2022

Right! And for all the students at ASU, people who live downtown etc. It’s a game changer. I’m from north Scottsdale originally but live in Denver now. I live in Denver proper but not anywhere near the Pepsi center. To go see the Yotes against the Avs last week was as simple as stepping on train outside my apartment, 20 minute ride, drop off right at the stadium. It just opens it up to so many more people

January 20, 2022

Even though I already knew AZ was a hockey market, I still needed this article as reassurance. Great stuff, thank you. I hate when people rip on the attendance, AZ is a fair-weather fan state for all of the pro teams (NFL being the exception). I was at a mid-week September D-Backs game and there was maybe 5,000 people there. I was at a Suns game back in 15 when they were terrible and there wasnt even 10,000 people there. Nobody was going online about how AZ isnt a baseball market or a basketball market. There are too many better things to do in the valley than watch bad sports teams. When they are good (and they will be good one day) people will pack the building.

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January 20, 2022

I agree that we have options. I also think selective attendance makes Valley fans more discerning. 🙂 Fan expectations are fair when they spend their hard-earned money.

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January 20, 2022

Thanks, man.

msadowski1988

msadowski1988

January 20, 2022

Living in Saskatoon as a diehard fan, I have to constantly defend the yotes and Arizona as a market… its exhausting. This article sums it up perfectly. Plus side is I have rinsed my friends by wagering on the Coyotes staying put over the last decade!

cathy.spitzer@gmail.com

cathy.spitzer@gmail.com

January 20, 2022

Great article, thank you. This eased the constant butterflies in my gut regarding the Coyotes! I hope the council will listen to the fans with an open mind!

RobB

RobB

January 20, 2022

Well written Craig! And absolutely true. It seems like all the trolls think this is still an experiment, bound to fail. The Yotes have been here for 26 years now. If they haven’t moved by now, they probably won’t.
Now I wish I had the same confidence in our ownership. What seemed like a great step is now so unsure. Just don’t have any real sense if AM is for real. A big step would be him talking to you. But that doesn’t seem to be in the cards. So I can’t say I’m optimistic on the whole situation.

davidcosand

davidcosand

January 20, 2022

Amen… now go out there and get a temporary arena deal in place, pay all your bills, convince Tempe you’re really paying for the arena, don’t draft kids that are bullies, and put Carter Hutton back in net because we’re winning too many games

pmarti2

pmarti2

January 20, 2022

Great article. Way to reignite enthusiasm and optimism within the AZ hockey community!

pmarti2 Replying to pmarti2

January 20, 2022

Thanks.

pmarti2 Replying to pmarti2

January 20, 2022

lol

pmarti2 Replying to pmarti2

January 20, 2022

I have all but given up on conducting that interview.

pmarti2 Replying to pmarti2

January 20, 2022

Sounds like a lot of fans are taking matters into their own hands.

pmarti2 Replying to pmarti2

January 20, 2022

Haha!

gfallar

gfallar

January 20, 2022

Preach, brother!

gfallar

gfallar

January 20, 2022

BTW the next Tempe City Council meeting is February 10. While the agenda won’t be published until the Friday prior, the Coyotes project will certainly be on the minds of the people running the town.
The address is 31 E. 5th St., Tempe
The meeting is 6 pm.

Just in case you were interested.

Durangutang93

Durangutang93

January 21, 2022

FACTS CRAIG! BASED AS ALWAYS CRAIG WE TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COYOTES FANBASE! #TANK2TEMPE

JimA

JimA

January 22, 2022

The list of teams that had major attendance issues or were on the moving list include the Blackhawks, Red Wings, Penguins. The Blues didn’t even send an owner to the draft one year.

I get sick and tired of reading the comments on Sportsnet and others when cities such as Quebec couldn’t support a squad that had multiple HOF players and were a wagon.

Esposito’s comments are funny since he put the team in the wrong building 2x, both at the Fairgrounds for a year or 2 and then St. Pete where they had to sell upper deck tickets for $99/season and had set up an area in the outfield where you would kick field goals, play dek hockey, etc. and the prize for “winning” was always tickets to another game.

ChrisKay1

ChrisKay1

January 23, 2022

Agree that the concept of Phoenix not being a hockey market has always been lazy analysis.  In the late 1960s/early 1970s the WHL Roadrunners often outdrew the Suns at the Coliseum.  No one at the time said “Phoenix is not an NBA market”.  It was just that the Roadrunners were a consistently winning team and played an exciting brand of hockey with hard-working players the fans could relate to.  Phoenix is definitely both an NBA and NHL market if the Coyotes are in the right arena location with competent management and a winning organization.

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